Obama's "Truth Teams"

[Hawkeye]

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/obama-campaign-launches-truth-teams-131411002--abc-news.html

When I read this, I had to think "are you kidding me? is this April 1st or something?" I suppose these truth teams are going to tell us how wonderful the economy is doing. What if I choose to disagree with the "truth teams?" Do I get sent to a "re-education camp?" If nothing else, it's very weird.

[moparal7]

Watch out if you disagree with the obama truthtons you could be guilty of a hate crime.

[Saabman]

Interesting, considering all the statistics (labor, unemployment, inflation,etc.) they've been feeding us lately have been spot on.....

[scrapper2010]

Do you really think whoever the GOP nominee is, that they won't lie about Obama's record? Of course they will. Obama will do the same to them. Everyone running for president should have their own "Truth Team". It couldn't hurt.

[IdahoCopper]

I looked over the Truth Team website. I found the response to the birth certificate controversy. It states "President Obama is an American-born citizen."

Isn't that nice. However the real truth is to be president, one must be a "natural born citizen". He isn't a natural born citizen because Big O's father was a British subject.

Funny how the Truth Teams can't get it right. What did you expect? Real truth from politicians? ROTFLMAO

[stevkc]

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/obama-campaign-launches-truth-teams-131411002--abc-news.html

When I read this, I had to think "are you kidding me? is this April 1st or something?" I suppose these truth teams are going to tell us how wonderful the economy is doing. What if I choose to disagree with the "truth teams?" Do I get sent to a "re-education camp?" If nothing else, it's very weird.

Yes, probably you will be sent to a re-education camp. Because that's what they do, imprison anyone who disagrees with them. Geez...

[stevkc]

He isn't a natural born citizen because Big O's father was a British subject.

You're simply wrong. If you are born here, you are a natural-born citizen. End of story. I don't understand why disagreeing with someone's politics causes people to abandon all rationality and common sense.

[Tourney64]

@stevkc

Natural Born Citizen requires yu to be born on US soil, and both parents at time of birth to be US Citizens. Obama claims his dad was a Briitish Citizen at the time of birth.

[stevkc]

Not true. Born in the US = natural born citizen. Parents don't matter.

[Thogey]

The Constitution does not define natural born citizen. It just says you have to be one to become president.

[Mossy]

The Constitution does not define natural born citizen. It just says you have to be one to become president.

Which annoys the daylight out of me.

I don't recall anything indicating a citizenship proceedure back when the Constitution was written, except, perhaps, the "land owner" provision for voting. Considering how long it took to travel, people did not do much of it back then.

[Bluegill]

Unless things have changed recently, It used to be that if a person is born on U.S. soil, he/she is automatically a U.S. citizen. Regardless of the parents nationality. If a person is born in a foreign country to U.S. parents (biological), he/she is automatically a U.S. citizen. A lot of times also becoming a citizen of that country, thus having dual citizenship.

My ex was born in Canada, she was a dual citizen until her 18th birthday. At that point she had to make a decision and choose a country.

As far as Obama and "natural born citizens", who knows. It doesn't even really matter. The SCOTUS will rule what ever is in the interest of the PTB and not the nation, nor the rule of law. So it's a moot point anymore...

[Beau]

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I wish I had a dual citizenship.
I would get out of this country if Oldbummer is elected for at least 4 years.
the coinstitution is worded and they take it to mean what they would like at the time.
we all know what happened on Oldbummer, but where is he from?
he is not Jesus Christ, but he thinks he is and has Truth Teams to say what he would like, I really think he is relected now with out an election, and there may not be one.
I think he will have us in another war before the end of this year.
this new war may be where they can`t have an election with a declared war is going on.
all the things on tv are talking about the end of the world.
I think that is what Obummer wants for this half of the world.
then we will all be gone and he will have all this and he will be another Hitler.

I sure don`t like a lot of things going on now.
I think you Canadian people have it made, compared to the USA now.
in fact Canada is a place I want to visit, and if it is like I have hurd I may want to stay for a few years or at least till Obummer, and his kind are gone from politics.
that may never be.

How much is the charge per month for a nice RV park up there?
please list the area or town if you know of one.

GOOD LUCK Beau


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[stevkc]

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I wish I had a dual citizenship.
I would get out of this country if Oldbummer is elected for at least 4 years.
the coinstitution is worded and they take it to mean what they would like at the time.
we all know what happened on Oldbummer, but where is he from?
he is not Jesus Christ, but he thinks he is and has Truth Teams to say what he would like, I really think he is relected now with out an election, and there may not be one.
I think he will have us in another war before the end of this year.
this new war may be where they can`t have an election with a declared war is going on.
all the things on tv are talking about the end of the world.
I think that is what Obummer wants for this half of the world.
then we will all be gone and he will have all this and he will be another Hitler.

I sure don`t like a lot of things going on now.
I think you Canadian people have it made, compared to the USA now.
in fact Canada is a place I want to visit, and if it is like I have hurd I may want to stay for a few years or at least till Obummer, and his kind are gone from politics.
that may never be.

How much is the charge per month for a nice RV park up there?
please list the area or town if you know of one.

GOOD LUCK Beau

Now that's weird--the biggest complaint most people have about Obama is that he allegedly wants the US to be some European-style socialist country with socialized health care and a slightly higher tax rate for the top 2%. Yet you want to go to Canada, where you will likely find all of the things you probably fear. But you really expose yourself as a kook with the elections and Hitler stuff.

I'd give you 100 to 1 odds that there will be a Presidential election. And you really think that his goal is to set up concentration camps and slaughter millions of people?

[Dave]

Bluegill is correct, so all you Obama haters get over it because he was born in the US, Besides, even if is wasn't, he will soon become the 1st non citizen to be re-elected President. Do you really think one of those GOP morons are going to get elected.

[Mossy]

There is no proof that he was born in the US. Both birth certs released have been shown to be fraudulant.

Why? Why spend $2 million (and counting) to block investigations in Hawaii? Why spend so much hiding the school transcripts? Why doesn't his Connecticut SSN come back as valid? How and when did he even get a Connecticut SSN?

More importantly, what is behind all this fraud, crime, and evasion?

[stevkc]

There is no proof that he was born in the US. Both birth certs released have been shown to be fraudulant.

Why? Why spend $2 million (and counting) to block investigations in Hawaii? Why spend so much hiding the school transcripts? Why doesn't his Connecticut SSN come back as valid? How and when did he even get a Connecticut SSN?

More importantly, what is behind all this fraud, crime, and evasion?

No proof--other than a birth certificate and birth announcements in the local papers. The birth certificates have not been shown to be fraudulent. And that's a pretty tough argument to make when the state of Hawaii says they are authentic and valid.
Please direct me where I can read about the $2M spent to block investigations in Hawaii. This is an often-repeated, flat-out, made-up statement. Nothing was spent on that or blocking high school transcripts, and Connecticut SS # story is also false. Simply read how the numbers were assigned and it is clear. Bunch of kooks who buy into this stuff.

[Mossy]

Ah, you mean the politicians, the political appointees, and the people who can be fired by the political appointees say "It's real"?

Take a closer look for yourself. I didn't keep a copy of the first version, just the 2nd. If you find one, magnify it on your screen so you can see the pixels. Original writing is gray scale (the squares are shades of gray) and the computer generated parts are black and white. No, they have not "been shown" to be fraudulent, they have never made it to court. You can see that they are. BTW, the hospital was not named that at that time, and his father would have been described as "negro".

Actually, I did read up on how SSN's are assigned. It's something I had to deal with as a payroll clerk. That's a Connecticut prefix (first 4 digits), according to the rules in place when it was assigned.

The newspaper article? His granny lived in Hawaii. She just sent the information to the news paper to announce the birth of her grandson. She could have done the same had he been born in England, or France, or anywhere.

[Thogey]

Negro! That's funny. I never even thought of that. There was no such thing as an African-American when we were kids.

I forgot about that. Black folks were negros. That was the polite term not to offend. I think "Afro-American" came up in the 70's.

Can you imagine if you described someone as negro now? oh man would you be in trouble.

I'm glad there is no hidden mic in my house???

[Thogey]

The only real African-American I know is a good friend and a white guy.

He was born in Zambia to missionaries, He is a naturalized American.

When we were in the Air Force all the Black guys would call him "my African Brother". That used to crack me up.

[Bluegill]

I forgot about that. Black folks were negros. That was the polite term not to offend.

You are correct. Negro isn't racist, or demeaning. It is simply Spanish for black. Look on a package for something made in Mexico or other Central/South American country that comes in multiple colors. If it is in Spanish, the black one will be listed as negro...

[fb101]

I'm not joining the argument, but I do want to note that what mossy and thogey said is correct. I was alive and aware in 1960 and you had "black", "negro" and worse as terms. that was it. That was before the schizophrenic cultural split in the late 60's ore early 70's when we all became "something"- americans. Before that there were just americans.

boy, didn't that just suck how culturally deprived we were.

[stevkc]

Ah, you mean the politicians, the political appointees, and the people who can be fired by the political appointees say "It's real"?

The (Republican) governor of Hawaii?

[stevkc]

his father would have been described as "negro".

That's a Connecticut prefix (first 4 digits), according to the rules in place when it was assigned.

The prefix (first 3 numbers) of the SS does not and has never corresponded to a state of birth or state of residence. Sorry, that's just a fact.
I'm not sure how you are so certain how they listed race in Honolulu in 1961, but his father was listed as "African" probably because he was born in and from Africa.

I know you would really like to believe the birth certificate nonsense, and I agree it would be quite a story if true. But its not, and ignoring obvious facts and believing kooky conspriacy theories isn't going to change that.

[Engineer]

The prefix (first 3 numbers) of the SS does not and has never corresponded to a state of birth or state of residence. Sorry, that's just a fact.

That is only marginally correct. The first three digits are used much like telephone prefixes and indicate the office or region in which you applied for a card. I used to have a list of them (supplied by the SSA), and could probably dig it back up again if needed.