by IdahoCopper » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:38 am
Auction
Sent: Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:36 pm
From: IdahoCopper
To: Cent1225
11) The winning bidder is the highest posted bid before the auction closes. However, as in all Realcent transactions any seller may reject any bid or bidder for any reason, including no reason at all.
I am rejecting the results of this auction. Thank you for trying.
Cheers!
Greg
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Re: Forty-six 90% & Ten 40%
Sent: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:27 pm
From: Cent1225
To: IdahoCopper
Greg:
While you may be within the "rules" of the auction to reject a high bid for no reason, you are certainly not within the SPIRIT of an auction.
Here is where I stand.
You are about to get a negative rating with your PM to me posted, so everyone on Realcent can see that you backed out on the deal and provided me with no reason for rejecting the auction(other than "the rules" said you could give no reason).
I am also planning to open a thread in the Silver Bullion, Gold, & other Bullion Metals section about the circumstances surrounding this Auction so that other members can comment on what has happened
This is not, I repeat NOT a threat.
It is simply that I have read numerous posts that have discussed this topic before and the concensus is as follows:
If you have a specific price you are trying to get, put it in the Buy it Now Section and you get what you ask for, but nothing more.
If you want to try to reap the benfits of bidding to get a higher price, then you also take the risk that you may get less than what you want. That is how AUCTIONS work.
The thing is, you can't have it both ways. If you try, as you have with me, you will get called on it, as you are about to with me.
Next time, if you post an auction with no conditions, then accept the high bid, whatever it is and dont "wienie out" just because the rules let you.
There is an honor and trust element here on Realcent, in addition to the rules.
No CHEERS for this one.
PS. I will wait until Tuesday, March 13, 2012 to post the negative rating and your PM to me to give you the opportunity to respond to me in a PM about this auction. I look forward to your discussion to convince me that I have no basis for posting negative feedback or opening a discussion thread on this matter, based upon your action to reject my bid. I would like to think that you have an "honor and trust" element. Convince to me that you do.
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Re: Forty-six 90% & Ten 40%
Sent: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:39 pm
From: IdahoCopper
To: Cent1225
Excuse me?
The auction closed at 5:00pm Eastern.
Check your bid, you placed it at 5:59pm.
To avoid error and confusion, I changed my profile to show me Eastern Time for everything posted here. Perhaps you should do the same?
Click User Control Panel - - Board Preferences - - My Timezone
Cheers!
Greg
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Re: Forty-six 90% & Ten 40%
Sent: Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:27 pm
From: Cent1225
To: IdahoCopper
First you tell me that you have rejected my bid(because you can by the rules). LAME.
Then you tell me that my bid was too late. (Sorry, my post says 4:59 pm March 11.) I have a hard copy of that.
So that brings YOU to the next step.
Even if I by some odd chance my bid was late ??, that makes Rainsonme the winner at $310 at 3:42pm.
Now I have talked with him and he thought that I won the auction. I told him that you said I did not. That makes him the winner.
He said that you have not contacted him to let him know that he is the winner.
That brings up four questions:
1). Are you just not going to contact Rainsonme to tell him he is the winner?
2). Just wondering if you are going to use some excuse on him to tell him that he didn't win either?
3). If somehow you find a way to exclude Rainsonme as the winner, is Scrapman1077 the winner at $300 ?
4). Do you just intend to bail out of this deal and expect the Realcent members to just accept this?
Brings me back to my originaly point. Convince me of your honor and integrity in this deal.
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Re: Forty-six 90% & Ten 40%
Sent: Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:46 pm
From: IdahoCopper
To: Cent1225
Your bid was 59 minutes late. You can easily verify that by changing your timezone setting to Eastern, then re-visit the thread to check the time stamp on your post. That is the correct time, not your hard copy.
That issue is all I will discuss with you. Go ahead, verify the timestamp and get back to me. Thank you.
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Re: Forty-six 90% & Ten 40%
Sent: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:26 am
From: Cent1225
To: IdahoCopper
Looking to verify the time of the bid, I asked "THE POWERS THAT BE" who administer this sight.
The reply I received is as follows:
"Your bid was at 5:59 PM Eastern Daylight Savings. Technically IC stated 5 PM Eastern Standard, which would mean 6 PM Eastern Daylight, so your bid should have been valid. He probably didn't think about it that way."
Now that it is established that my bid was a valid bid, how would you like to handle this transaction ?
Paypal works for me, how about you?
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Re: Forty-six 90% & Ten 40%
Sent: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:50 am
From: IdahoCopper
To: Cent1225
Your bid was rejected. It still is. I will not sell silver for only 75% of spot.
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Sent: Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:53 pm
From: Cent1225
To: IdahoCopper
You have received new negative feedback from Cent1225
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What a circus the marketplace has become. An auction is an auction, rejecting bids is BS, even if stated. Why even have an auction?
