PM Rally

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Re: PM Rally

Postby barrytrot » Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:13 pm

reddirtcoins wrote:Let's see if JP smashes it Wed/Thurs.... I'm still waiting for 20....


You will be waiting forever.
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Re: PM Rally

Postby Jonflyfish » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:28 pm

Nobody believes me. But that's ok. The market is the great arbituer and this big rally will speak for itself. Not going into why it will happen. That matters not (unless you have to fill airtime or journalist media space with empty rhetoric.)
What's important is price and price alone.

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Re: PM Rally

Postby shinnosuke » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:29 pm

Jonflyfish wrote:Nobody believes me. But that's ok. The market is the great arbituer and this big rally will speak for itself. Not going into why it will happen. That matters not unless you have to fill airtime or journalist media space with empty rhetoric. What's important is price and price alone.

Cheers!


Of course we believe you. We've seen you nail stuff too often to doubt you, but you're just a bit too cryptic sometimes.
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Re: PM Rally

Postby fb101 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:50 pm

Nobody believes me. But that's ok.


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What I'm thinking is the euro gets heavy and causes a flight to safety in PMs and (ha-ha) Dollars.
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Edit: Alternatively, Euro could rally in the face of the current issues.
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Re: PM Rally

Postby SoFa » Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:42 pm

It should move one way or another very soon. I don't know how you can tell based just on price though. But I guess that's not supposed to matter to us.
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Re: PM Rally

Postby Rodebaugh » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:09 pm

JFF, What value of (%) and duration do you think the run will make?
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Re: PM Rally

Postby aloneibreak » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:34 pm

Jonflyfish wrote:Nobody believes me. But that's ok. The market is the great arbituer and this big rally will speak for itself. Not going into why it will happen. That matters not (unless you have to fill airtime or journalist media space with empty rhetoric.)
What's important is price and price alone.

Cheers!


ya know jff, i might be starting to come around to your way of thinking...
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Re: PM Rally

Postby Nickelmeister » Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:23 am

I'm a believer!
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Re: PM Rally

Postby slickeast » Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:03 pm

Looks like we might be seeing the rally starting
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Re: PM Rally

Postby barrytrot » Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:18 pm

What are we down less than 25 cents again? :)
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Re: PM Rally

Postby beauanderos » Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:32 pm

aloneibreak wrote:
Jonflyfish wrote:Nobody believes me. But that's ok. The market is the great arbituer and this big rally will speak for itself. Not going into why it will happen. That matters not (unless you have to fill airtime or journalist media space with empty rhetoric.)
What's important is price and price alone.

Cheers!


ya know jff, i might be starting to come around to your way of thinking...


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Re: PM Rally

Postby aloneibreak » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:25 pm

beauanderos wrote:
aloneibreak wrote:
Jonflyfish wrote:Nobody believes me. But that's ok. The market is the great arbituer and this big rally will speak for itself. Not going into why it will happen. That matters not (unless you have to fill airtime or journalist media space with empty rhetoric.)
What's important is price and price alone.

Cheers!


ya know jff, i might be starting to come around to your way of thinking...


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but meaning that i KNOW silver is manipulated

i KNOW it should and would be substantially higher if left alone to itself

but meaning im tired of worrying so much about the whys

the price is what it is

i'll continue to buy what i can when i can
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Re: PM Rally

Postby beauanderos » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:28 pm

hey... I'm just happy it's going up for a change. Wonder if it's due to Syria?
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Re: PM Rally

Postby NHsorter » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:37 pm

Why, do they use silver in chemical weapons? :D But seriously, if that is the case I would expect nickel to take a bit more of a jump than it has today. Not saying I have any idea for the reasoning here.
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Re: PM Rally

Postby Nickelmeister » Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:25 pm

I wonder if it has to do with the "audit the Fed" bill being voted on today.
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Re: PM Rally

Postby NHsorter » Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:30 pm

It's gotta be that QE3 expectations are growing. That is my take anyway. FWIW.
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Re: PM Rally

Postby beauanderos » Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:00 pm

NHsorter wrote:It's gotta be that QE3 expectations are growing. That is my take anyway. FWIW.


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Re: PM Rally

Postby shinnosuke » Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:16 pm

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Re: PM Rally

Postby beauanderos » Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:49 pm


Sounds like Reid is trying to prevent the Senate from even having to vote on it.
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Re: PM Rally

Postby shinnosuke » Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:52 pm

beauanderos wrote:

Sounds like Reid is trying to prevent the Senate from even having to vote on it.


Well then, PMs will rally.
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Re: PM Rally

Postby shinnosuke » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:03 am

Two relevant articles of interest:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/cherry-top-cme-lowers-equity-index-margins-over-20

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2012/07/26/why-gold-will-surpass-2250-per-ounce.aspx

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Re: PM Rally

Postby fb101 » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:46 am

The first one has an interesting comment;
When the market sits on what many are calling the edge of a decades long support that if it turns south there's huge downside risk and there's lots of resisitance above so limited chance of a big rally, that's when you decide to cut margins so your stock holders are left holding the bag if/when those overleveraged bozos get taken out?
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Re: PM Rally

Postby fb101 » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:52 am

BTW, I hope that wasn't the rally...............
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Re: PM Rally

Postby InfleXion » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:04 pm

CtrlAltBernanke wrote:Does anybody know when these JP Morgan short contracts are do? Wouldn't that be some guidance as to when silver will launch like a missile?

According to the Got Gold Report the LCNS (Large Commerical Net Short) position is the lowest it has ever been in this bull market, since 2001. That position is calculated by net short minus net long. So it doesn't necessarily imply that the JPM short position has been liquidated yet, though IMO this is a good time for them to be doing it, but rather that the longs far outweigh the shorts. As for when they are due, it doesn't really matter. They can keep rolling it over to future dates indefinitely, at least until position limits go into effect in 2013 (thank you Ted Butler).

Also, I didn't bother quoting them but I agree with your other posts on this thread.

I have no idea if a rally is coming or not. It feels like the price is consolidating and building a solid base, but all it takes is one major event to blow all the technical indicators out of the water.
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Re: PM Rally

Postby InfleXion » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:06 pm

NHsorter wrote:It's gotta be that QE3 expectations are growing. That is my take anyway. FWIW.

I'm not banking on QE3 before the election since it would also impact gas prices. As far as I can tell the moves in the metals correspond percentage wise with how much the Euro is gaining on the USD now that they've promised the ESM a banking license for free money from the ECB to keep the bailouts going when the EFSF runs out. My best guess is the price will be sideways to mildly upward along the QE2 trendline for the rest of the year.
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