John Reich wrote:I can also remember the period of time from 79-80. Compared to this 10 year bull run, that time seemed to be over in a flash! It was really exciting because the market just took off like a rocket and then, BAM!! It was over like that.
Ecotic wrote:What I see as different this time around is the rise of the internet and how all of the survivalists, preppers, hoarders, gold-standard libertarians, gun nuts, and general crazies (I'm not necessarily saying anyone here is) have found reinforcement for their views online and their numbers and collective power has swelled. And it's all egged on by survivalist t.v. like The Walking Dead, Doomsday Preppers, and by right-wing radio that's constantly trashing government and hammering home how America's $14 trillion debt will cause an economic collapse and our fiat money will go down with it. Add to that the Euro crisis which is constantly making people afraid of having their savings stored in banks or in fiat money, and you basically have an ever increasing global population that's scared stiff of not having something physical and tangible.
Ecotic wrote:You could see it a couple of weeks ago during the big correction, everybody was dumping gold and silver and you could see how the market wanted to make a far bigger correction but the demand for physical bullion was so strong it put a stop to the falling price.
Ecotic wrote:Gold and Silver are probably on a long-term decline right now (it's quite obvious that the money is flowing into stocks), but it just seems more and more people are getting afraid out there, and want the shiny stuff.
68Camaro wrote:The "everyone" who was dumping was limited to paper sellers, largely major investment banks who were dumping short paper (with the purpose of affecting price) rathe r than selling actual physical. In contrast the physical buyers reached a fever pitch, because they recognized that gold and silver were on a fire sale stimulated by the paper selling (since the two are still somewhat tied together).
This last statement is internally contradictory. They are on a long-term decline? Perhaps you refer to paper prices. The decline in paper price simultaneous with record demand for physical just illustrates how the market is disconnecting, since it is not following supply and demand theory.
68Camaro wrote:Well said! But we may have a difference between us in that I suspect from the tone that you are listing the above as incorrect and/or bad things, whereas I would view them as either correct and/or good things.
scyther wrote:It's kind of disturbing to see long-time Realcenters questioning PMs. Looks like it's really over. I wish I hadn't gotten in when I did. Oh well.
scyther wrote:It's kind of disturbing to see long-time Realcenters questioning PMs. Looks like it's really over. I wish I hadn't gotten in when I did. Oh well.
Ecotic wrote:You could see it a couple of weeks ago during the big correction, everybody was dumping gold and silver and you could see how the market wanted to make a far bigger correction but the demand for physical bullion was so strong it put a stop to the falling price.
Gold and Silver are probably on a long-term decline right now (it's quite obvious that the money is flowing into stocks), but it just seems more and more people are getting afraid out there, and want the shiny stuff.
Engineer wrote:
Morsecode wrote:Engineer wrote:
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68Camaro wrote:Good points LT... and that would be the "normal" behavior, but this is different. This time, when/if the interest rates rise that much the national debts of the world will become unsustainable. The only reason they are able to maintain the current debt load in the current economy is with artificially low rates sustained by money printing.
68Camaro wrote:Not sure if there is any disagreement, I probably didn't express myself well. I was trying to say that there won't be any major interest rate increase allowed because that would bring the government debt to a crisis.
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