Aluminium shortage

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Aluminium shortage

Postby hobo finds » Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:20 pm

I went to the store yesterday and new signs posted by the beer and soda. It stated due to a national aluminium shortage certain types and flavored can beverages may not be in stock. Wtf. More bs....
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Re: Aluminium shortage

Postby TXSTARFIRE » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:17 pm

Scrap aluminum prices going up then?
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Re: Aluminium shortage

Postby smackvay » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:47 pm

TXSTARFIRE wrote:Scrap aluminum prices going up then?


i hope so as i havent sold anything other than steel for maybe 2 years, probably have 2500 of sheet clean aluminum :thumbup:
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Re: Aluminium shortage

Postby Recyclersteve » Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:06 am

I read about shortages in both San Diego and Houston.

One thing a bit strange about aluminum cans is this. They have a small surface area and if you pick one up that was recently touched by someone with the virus, that would likely pose a problem. I have recycled other items, but the cans are a potential problem for now IMHO.
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Re: Aluminium shortage

Postby aussamdad » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:25 am

today here in Houston 30 cents a pound for cans....lets see $1.30 pound! I am covered up in them.
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Re: Aluminium shortage

Postby xippi » Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:39 pm

prices at the scrap yard have been cut in half in the last year from .40 per lb down to .20 cents

from April 22 2020 Seattle times
[b]Alcoa to shut Ferndale smelter, throwing 700 out of work[/b]

"The country now only has five smelters remaining and all of them are losing money. Forecasts have been bearish, with supply of aluminum far outpacing demand"

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/l ... t-of-work/

I thought I read somewhere there closing a place in NY or Michigan but I couldn't find the story.
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Re: Aluminium shortage

Postby Recyclersteve » Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:15 am

This is a strange occurrence. Normally prices go up (not down) when there are shortages. It is hard to explain, except that I never thought I’d see barrels of oil and interest rates both below zero in my lifetime. This is indeed the Bizarro World (Seinfeld reference).
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Re: Aluminium shortage

Postby Recyclersteve » Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:15 am

Accidental dupe- sorry.
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Re: Aluminium shortage

Postby Recyclersteve » Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:18 am

Another thought- if you think the shortage will last a while, you might stock up on aluminum foil. That would make an interesting barter item for a SHTF situation.
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Re: Aluminium shortage

Postby knibloe » Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:42 pm

Recyclersteve wrote:Another thought- if you think the shortage will last a while, you might stock up on aluminum foil. That would make an interesting barter item for a SHTF situation.


In my opinion if there is an item that you use on a regular basis you should have a spare (or 2) on hand. Especially after all of this.
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Re: Aluminium shortage

Postby messymessy » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:03 pm

There isn't a shortage of aluminum, it is a shortage of cans.

There was no paper pulp shortage, but there sure was a toilet paper shortage.

Same idea. People's buying habits have changed.
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