PCGS Submission NEW LOT #15, 12-17-12

[Rodebaugh]

New lots (#15) added 12-17-12

I will update this page as new results and submissions are made:

Lot#1
1-1884-CC Morgan / My grade MS-63+ / PCGS grade MS-64----------------------------------------------------------I under graded
2-1885-O Morgan / My grade MS-63+ DMPL / PCGS grade MS-64 DMPL---------------------------------------------I under graded
3-1891-O Morgan / My grade MS-64 / PCGS grade MS-63-------------------------------------------------------------I over graded
4-1899-P Morgan / My grade MS-65 (lightly cleaned) / PCGS grade Authentic altered surfaces------------------Darn they caught it

Lot#2
1-1884-O Morgan / My grade MS-64+ / PCGS grade MS-64-----------------------------------------------------------Correct
2-1885-P Morgan / My grade MS-63 / PCGS grade MS-63-------------------------------------------------------------Correct
3-1889-P Morgan / My grade MS-63 / PCGS grade MS-62-------------------------------------------------------------I over graded
4-1890-P Morgan / My grade MS-64 / PCGS grade MS-63-------------------------------------------------------------I over graded
5-1899-O Morgan / My grade MS-63 / PCGS grade MS-64-------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
6-1899-O Morgan / My grade MS-63+ / PCGS grade MS-64------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
7-1904-O Morgan / My grade MS-64 / PCGS grade MS-64-------------------------------------------------------------Correct
8-1878-S Morgan / My grade MS-63+ / PCGS grade MS-64------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
9-1881-S Morgan / My grade MS-63 / PCGS grade MS-63--------------------------------------------------------------Correct
10-1882-CC Morgan / My grade MS-64 / PCGS grade MS-64-----------------------------------------------------------Correct
11-1883-O Morgan / My grade MS-63 / PCGS grade MS-64-------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
12-1883-O Morgan / My grade MS-63 / PCGS grade MS-64-------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
13-1883-O Morgan / My grade MS-63 /PCGS grade MS-64-------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
14-1883-P Morgan / My grade MS-63 / PCGS grade MS-63-------------------------------------------------------------Correct
15-1885-O Morgan / My grade MS-63 / PCGS grade MS-64-------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
16-1885-O Morgan / My grade MS-63 / PCGS grade MS-64-------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
17-1886-P Morgan / My grade MS-63 / PCGS grade MS-63-------------------------------------------------------------Correct
18-1887-P Morgan / My grade MS-62 / PCGS grade MS-63-------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
19-1887-P Morgan / My grade MS-62 / PCGS grade MS-63-------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
20-1890-P Morgan / My grade MS-63 / PCGS grade MS-63-------------------------------------------------------------Correct
21-1891-S Morgan / My grade MS-63 / PCGS grade MS-63-------------------------------------------------------------Correct
22-1891-S Morgan / My grade MS-63 / PCGS Gen Clenaed-------------------------------------------------------------Not sure what I missed?
23-1891-S Morgan / My grade MS-62 / PCGS grade MS-63-------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
24-1883-CC Morgan / My grade MS-63 / PCGS grade MS-64-----------------------------------------------------------I under graded
25-1923-P Peace / My grade MS-63 / PCGS grade MS-62---------------------------------------------------------------I over graded

Lot#3
1-1878-P 8TF Morgan / My grade MS-63 / PCGS grade MS-63--------------------------------------------------------Correct
2-1879-S Morgan / My grade MS-63 / PCGS grade MS-64-------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
3-1880-S Morgan / My grade MS-64 / PCGS grade MS-64-------------------------------------------------------------Correct
4-1880-S Morgan / My grade MS-63 / PCGS grade MS-63-------------------------------------------------------------Correct
5-1880-S Morgan / My grade MS-65 / PCGS grade MS-65-------------------------------------------------------------Correct
6-1881-S Morgan / My grade MS-63+ / PCGS grade MS-63------------------------------------------------------------Correct
7-1882-P Morgan / My grade MS-63 / PCGS grade MS-63-------------------------------------------------------------Correct
8-1885-P Morgan / My grade MS-63 / PCGS grade MS-64-------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
9-1885-O Morgan / My grade MS-65 / PCGS grade MS-64-------------------------------------------------------------I over graded
10-1887-P Morgan / My grade MS-64 / PCGS grade MS-64-------------------------------------------------------------Correct
11-1887-P Morgan / My grade MS-65 / PCGS grade MS-64-------------------------------------------------------------I over graded
12-1898-O Morgan / My grade MS-63+ / PCGS grade MS-64-----------------------------------------------------------I under graded
13-1898-O Morgan / My grade MS-64 / PCGS grade MS-65-------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
14-1899-O Morgan / My grade MS-64 / PCGS grade MS-64-------------------------------------------------------------Correct
15-1899-O Morgan / My grade MS-64 / PCGS grade MS-64-------------------------------------------------------------Correct
16-1900-O Morgan / My grade MS-63 / PCGS grade MS-64-------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
17-1902-O Morgan / My grade MS-63 / PCGS grade MS-63-------------------------------------------------------------Correct
18-1902-O Morgan / My grade MS-64 / PCGS grade MS-64-------------------------------------------------------------Correct

Lot#4
1-1923 $20 Saint / My grade MS-62 / PCGS grade MS-63 secure plus-------------------------------------------------I under graded
2-1926 $20 Saint / My grade MS-62 / PCGS grade MS-62 secure plus-------------------------------------------------Correct
3-1927 $20 Saint / My grade MS-63+ / PCGS grade MS-64+ secure plus----------------------------------------------I under graded

Lot#5
1-1880-S Morgan / My grade MS-64+ DMPL / PCGS grade MS-65PL-------------------------------------------------------------I over graded
2-1880-P Morgan / My grade MS-64 / PCGS grade MS-65------------------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
3-1880-P Morgan / My grade MS-65 / PCGS grade MS-64------------------------------------------------------------------------I over graded
4-1880-O Morgan / My grade Genuine AU Details (Thogeys Dollar) / PCGS grade MS-62-------------------------------------I under graded
5-1882-O Morgan / My grade MS-64+ / PCGS grade MS-64-----------------------------------------------------------------------Correct
6-1882-O Morgan / My grade MS-65 / PCGS grade MS-64+-----------------------------------------------------------------------I over graded
7-1897-P Morgan / My grade MS-66 / PCGS grade MS-65------------------------------------------------------------------------I over graded
8-1880-O Morgan / My grade MS-63 DMPL / PCGS grade MS-64DMPL---------------------------------------------------------I under graded

Lot #6
1-1995 ASE / My grade Genuine Artificial color/ PCGS grade code 91 BU details-----------------------------------------I over graded
2-2001 ASE / My grade MS-66 /PCGS grade code 91 BU details-------------------------------------------------------------I over graded
3-2003 ASE / My grade Genuine Artificial color/ PCGS grade code 91 BU details-----------------------------------------I over graded
4-2004 ASE / My grade MS-64 /PCGS grade code 91 BU details-------------------------------------------------------------I over graded
5-2005 ASE / My grade MS-63/ PCGS grade code 91 BU details-------------------------------------------------------------I over graded

Lot#7
1-1897-S Morgan / My grade MS-64+/ PCGS grade code 92 (cleaned) --------(came out of a redfield)-----------------I over graded
2-1878-CC Morgan / My grade MS-62PL/PCGS grade MS-63--------------------(coin has 6in mirrors)-------------------I under graded
3-1882-S Morgan / My grade MS-64PL/ PCGS grade code 92 ------------(old NGC fatty crackout)-----------------------I over graded
4-1902-P Morgan / My grade MS65/ PCGS grade MS-66---------------(Old ANA crackout MS-65)------------------------I under graded

Lot#8
1-1880-P Morgan / My grade MS-63/PCGS grade code 91 BU details-------------------------------------------------------I over graded
2-1881-P Morgan / My grade MS-63 (dad's coin)/PCGS grade MS-63-------------------------------------------------------Correct
3-1882-S Morgan / My grade MS-63/PCGS grade MS-64---------------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
4-1883-O Morgan / My grade MS-64/PCGS grade MS-64---------------------------------------------------------------------Correct
5-1888-P Morgan / My grade MS-63+/PCGS grade MS-64--------------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
6-1898-P Morgan / My grade MS-64/PCGS grade MS-65---------------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
7-1993 ASE / My grade MS-67 (COLOR!)/PCGS grade MS-68---------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
8-2011-W ASE Proofs (eight coins here.....looking for at least a couple 70's)--------------(2) PR69DC, (6!) PR70DC-------(made money)

Lot#9
1-1885-CC GSA Morgan / My grade MS-62/PCGS grade MS-62--------------------------------------------------------------Correct
2-1882-S Morgan / See lot #7 coin #3/PCGS Cleaned !!! those butts-------------------------------------------------------I over graded
3-1852-P Gold dollar / My grade MS-60/PCGS grade MS-62--------(PCI crackout I tried to sell on RC for $350)-------I under graded
4-1869-P 3-cent / My grade AU-58/PCGS grade MS-63------------(Crack out of a Geniune holder)----------------------I under graded

Lot#10
1-1878-S $1 PCGS MS64.......Colorful MS-63 Crackout from old ANA slab. Purchased from RC's Market Harmony UPGRADE
2-1879-S $1 PCGS MS64.......Colorful MS-63 Crackout from old ANA slab. Purchased from RC's Market Harmony UPGRADE
3-1882-O $1 PCGS MS63.......Raw bright white paid 63 price
4-1882-O $1 PCGS MS64.......Raw bright white paid 63 price UPGRADE
5-1882-O $1 PCGS MS63.......Raw bright white paid 63 price
6-1884-O $1 PCGS MS65.......Raw bright white paid 63 price UPGRADE
7-1888-O $1 PCGS MS64.......Raw bright white paid 63 price UPGRADE
8-1903 $1 PCGS MS65..........Old ANACS slab crackout was a 65...no movement
9-1903 $1 PCGS MS65..........Purchased Raw at 63 price UPGRADE
10-1887-S $1 PCGS MS62 .....Old NGC slab at MS-61....Hated to crack it but knew it would easily upgrade. UPGRADE
11-1999 $1 Silver Eagle PCGS MS68......So Colorful I think a Rainbow puked on this coin. Very Nice. Was raw.
12-1914-D Cent PCGS VG10.......UPGRADE

Lot#11
1-1902-S Morgan.............My grade MS-63...................PCGS MS-63--------------------------------------------------------------Correct
2-1893-S Saint...............My grade MS-60...................PCGS MS-61---------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
3-1909-O $5 lib..............My grade VF-20 (details).........PCGS VF-35---------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
4-1879-O Morgan............My grade MS-62...................PCGS MS-63---------------------------------------------------------------I under graded

Lot#12
1-1937-D Buffalo 3 Legs / My grade AU-55 (what a great coin)......PCGS grade code 92 (AU Details) --------------I over graded
2-1851 $2.5 Gold / My grade EF-40................PCGS AU-53-------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
3-1861 $2.5 Gold New reverse / My grade MS-62 .....PCGS VF-58--------------------------------------------------------I over graded
4-1908 $2.5 Gold / My grade AU-53................PCGS AU-58-------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
5-1929 $2.5 Gold / My grade MS-62 (may come back cleaned)......PCGS grade code 92 (Unc Details) ---------------Correct
6-1908 $5 Gold / My grade VF-30 ..................PCGS VF-20--------------------------------------------------------------I over graded
7-1908 $5 Gold / My grade AU-55...................PCGS AU-55--------------------------------------------------------------Correct
8-1912 $5 Gold / My grade EF-40...................PCGS EF-40--------------------------------------------------------------Correct
9-1915 $5 Gold / My grade EF-45...................PCGS EF-45--------------------------------------------------------------Correct
10-1878 $20 Gold / My grade AU-53................PCGS AU-55-------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
11-1878-S $20 Gold / My grade MS-60.............PCGS grade code 92 (Unc Details) -----------------------------------I over graded
12-1895 $20 Gold / My grade MS-61................PCGS MS-62-------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
13-1896 $20 Gold / My grade MS-62...............PCGS AU-58--------------------------------------------------------------I over graded
14-1926 $20 Gold / My grade MS-62................PCGS MS-62-------------------------------------------------------------Correct

Lot#13
1-1811 large cent / My grade G-6..................PCGS grade code 97 (Good Details) -----------------------------------I over graded
2-1857-O Dime / My grade EF-40...................PCGS VF-35--------------------------------------------------------------I over graded
3-1897-S Dime/ My grade VF-20....................PCGS EF-40-------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
4-1909-O Dime / My grade EF-40...................PCGS EF-45-------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
5-1912-S Dime / My grade MS-62...................PCGS MS-62-------------------------------------------------------------Correct
6-1913-D Buff Type II / My grade VF-20 (may come back cleaned).........PCGS VF-30---------------------------------I under graded
7-1914-D Buff / My grade F-12.....................PCGS F-15--------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
8-1917-S Buff / My grade VF-20....................PCGS VF-35-------------------------------------------------------------I under graded
9-1925-D Buff / My grade AU-50 ...................PCGS grade code 92 (AU Details) ------------------------------------I over graded
10-1926-S Buff / My grade VF-20..................PCGS VF-20-------------------------------------------------------------Correct
11-1938-D Half / My grade F-12....................PCGS F-12--------------------------------------------------------------Correct
12-1938-D Half / My grade F-12....................PCGS F-12--------------------------------------------------------------Correct
13-1938-D Half / My grade F-15....................PCGS F-15--------------------------------------------------------------Correct
14-1881 Morgan / grade MS-63.....................PCGS MS63PL-----------------------------------------------------------Correct
15-1882-CC Morgan / grade MS-63.................PCGS MS63-----------------------------------------------------------Correct
16-1882-CC Morgan / grade MS-64+...............PCGS MS64+-----------------------------------------------------------Correct :
17-1884-O Morgan / grade MS-63 (COLOR) ...........PCGS MS-64------------------------------------------I under graded
18-1887-S Morgan / grade MS-63+...................PCGS MS-62--------------------------------------------------------------I over graded
19-2012-S Proof ASE / grade MS-70...................PCGS PR-69--------------------------------------------------------------I over graded
20-2012-S Reverse Proof ASE / grade MS-70........PCGS PR-69--------------------------------------------------------------I over graded

Lot#15
1-1909-S VDB cent / My grade BU-62RB (what a great coin but may come back funny)...(RO)
2-1909-S VDB cent / My grade G-4 (may come back as a 09-s NO VDB).....................(NH)
3-1914-D cent / My grade XF-40.................................................................(RO)
4-1914-D cent / My grade AU-50.................................................................(NH)
5-1922 $20 Gold / My grade MS-62..............................................................(RY)
6-1922 $20 Gold / My grade MS-63..............................................................(RY)
7-1923 $20 Gold / My grade MS-63..............................................................(RY)
8-1924 $20 Gold / My grade MS-62..............................................................(RY)
9-1924 $20 Gold / My grade MS-63..............................................................(RY)
10-1925 $20 Gold / My grade MS-63.............................................................(RY)
11-1925 $20 Gold / My grade MS-65.............................................................(RY)
12-1927 $20 Gold / My grade MS-63.............................................................(RY)
13-1928 $20 Gold / My grade MS-62.............................................................(RY)
14-1899 $1 Morgan / My grade MS-65....................(May be rim damage)..............(RO)
15-1909-D $5 Gold / My grade EF-45............................................................(RO)

[Diggin4copper]

I have never submitted anything to PCGS, but I have a couple nice Morgans that I will send someday... I look forward to the results..

[Rodebaugh]

I have never submitted anything to PCGS, but I have a couple nice Morgans that I will send someday... I look forward to the results..

Post a few pics. I would love to see them.....and offer my two cu cents on their grades.
And thanks for the reply. Sometimes the numismatics board on RC seems likle a ghost town.

I can and will post any pics of my above coins once back in my hands for anyone that wants to see them.

[Rodebaugh]

Just got a PCGS e-mail for the gardes of lot #2.

I will post the results tomorrow. Stay tuned.... . . . .

[bman]

man, you spend more on grading then I do on coins...

I did send in a Standing Liberty quarter last month that I'm waiting to come back.

[Market Harmony]

Just got a PCGS e-mail for the gardes of lot #2.

I will post the results tomorrow. Stay tuned.... . . . .

awesome! I hope you get surprised with some 5's

[Rodebaugh]

No 65s. Figured that. This was a low end submission of Morgans.

Results posted for each coin in main post.

My thoughts on the results of this submission: Overall I believe the results were favorable. I correctly graded 9 coins, under graded 12 coins, and over graded 4 coins. I interpret this to be a sign that I am pretty spot on with a tendency to under grade just a bit. Not sure why PCGS graded that 91-S genuine (cleaned). I will have to inspect it further when it returns home. Looking forward to submission #3’s results. There will be some dandys in that lot.

[Market Harmony]

No 65s. Figured that. This was a low end submission of Morgans.

Results posted for each coin in main post.

My thoughts on the results of this submission: Overall I believe the results were favorable. I correctly graded 9 coins, under graded 12 coins, and over graded 4 coins. I interpret this to be a sign that I am pretty spot on with a tendency to under grade just a bit. Not sure why PCGS graded that 91-S genuine (cleaned). I will have to inspect it further when it returns home. Looking forward to submission #3’s results. There will be some dandys in that lot.

Ha! Now you will have to wait forever for them to be delivered... kinda makes you wish you went with the FedEx overnight, huh? Great job on the grading, but did you notice the same pattern that I see?

New Orleans minted Silver Dollars are typically weakly struck. I don't know what the difference was between that mint and San Francisco, which typically made very well struck Silver Dollars. Typical weak features are in the center of the coin... Liberty's ear and the Eagle's breast. From any other mint, weakness in these details would be considered as a downgrade, or a hurdle to getting a higher grade. But, the New Orleans mint gets away with weakly struck dollars because that's just the way they were made. If you didn't see the pattern before, do you see it now?

Also, even though the Carson City Mint typically made coins with very good strike, the grading services seem to be a little more lenient on accounting for bag marks. A 'P' with the same bag marks that a 'CC' has might not get the same grade.

In any regards, those are some nice coins... congrats on the great buys!

[Rosco]

On your first lot you said 65 on coin 4 an they said authentic but altered surface what will that grade or value be for that coin and will you post pictures on the coins when they come back or did you picture them before submitting them??

[Rodebaugh]

On your first lot you said 65 on coin 4 an they said authentic but altered surface what will that grade or value be for that coin and will you post pictures on the coins when they come back or did you picture them before submitting them??

Darn coin 4 of lot one was an NGC crackout. NGC had it at a MS-64. I had a buddy crack it out and submit it to PCGS for me. It came back Genuine Cleaned. I then Recracked it and resubmitted it to PCGS and got the new designation of Genuine altered surfaces. Time to retire this one into the hoard. It had its chance(s). It's a darn shame too....Its a great coin with the lightest "thumb rub" ever.

I will post pics of some of the coins as the come back. As for what the 1899-P is worth....who knows? It is a coin that I will not be able to get my mony back out of thats for sure. I do belive submitted to NGC or ANACS would get it holdered MS-64 to MS-65. I may do that someday. But as of now, it can just chill out in the safe for a little while.

Yes MH, the O mint's press must have been mule powered while the San Fran mint used thermo-nuclear power for theirs . The two CC dollars were from GSA holders. I did crack them out before submission so the "GSA" pedigree will not be listed on the labels.

Lot #3 is mostly morgans that I purchased raw off the floor of the Monroeville coin show last month. There is a ANACS crack out that I purchased from Market Harmony's booth (at a fair price). If I recall correctly it was holdered as 1880-S MS-66. Overgraded in that holder but it should be a solid MS-65 at PCGS.

[Rodebaugh]

Lot one just made it home....enjoy

[Market Harmony]

I really like the toning on those Morgans. There is something to say about coins that remain in unmolested condition for a period of time and to be in the right environment to develop an attractive patina... The collectability of these kinds of coins makes them scarce on the bourse floor.

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I think it is an easy MS65 RB And I'm taking offers, but not in any kind of hurry to sell this beauty.

I'll be adding this picture to your "who's a sucker.." thread

[daviscfad]

i really like the 1885 o and the 1891. Can i see a reverse pic of the 1885?

[Rodebaugh]

I will get pics of the rev tonight. It's just as Sexy as the obv.

Nice cent Mike....very orig.

[barrytrot]

Your hands are well groomed.

[68Camaro]

Your hands are well groomed.

He hired a hand-model for the shots...

[Rodebaugh]

Reverse(s) in crappy indoor lighting.



Yep, gotta keep the hands in good shape. They are what lifts the fork.

[Rodebaugh]

Lot #3 results are in!

[barrytrot]

A heck of a lot more green than red That's got to feel good!

Any nice toners in the mix?

[Rodebaugh]

A heck of a lot more green than red That's got to feel good!

Any nice toners in the mix?

Maybe a few bulls eye style toners. I am scared of monsters....monster toners that is

Yeah happy as can be with myself. I have more confidence in my grading now. It’s good to be a conservative grader, and I feel like I am hitting that goal consistently. This last group was from an 8hr “working the floor” shift at the last Monroeville, PA coin show. It’s nice to see that every coin I purchased graded without a hold up. I wish I would have paid more attention to what I spent so I could have an idea to whether or not this endeavor was profitable. I was too focused on buying original, clean, honest, sexy eye appeal morgans. I do know I only paid MS 65 prices for one coin. The crack out PCI I purchased from Market Harmony. It was holdered 66 but we both knew it would cross at 65. Sure enough it did. Let that also be a testament to the honesty and fairness of Mike.

[daviscfad]

looks like you got of a lot of good grades out of the deal

[Market Harmony]

Great eye, Chris. You should be happy with the results. It's good to hear about the crossover 65.

47 total
20 correct
19 under graded by you
6 over graded by you
2 were cleaned

Those are great numbers.

Got any nice raw 'O' mints in MS63 that you keep tripping over?

[Rodebaugh]

Great eye, Chris. You should be happy with the results. It's good to hear about the crossover 65.

47 total
20 correct
19 under graded by you
6 over graded by you
2 were cleaned

Those are great numbers.

Got any nice raw 'O' mints in MS63 that you keep tripping over?

[myfundsarelow]

you are on your way to become a good judge on grading these fine coins, practice makes perfect keep up the good grading of all your fine coins P S if you care to say what each coin cost to grade okay if you dont want to say the cost i understand not all just to get the idea of price thank you PEACE!!

[Rodebaugh]

you are on your way to become a good judge on grading these fine coins, practice makes perfect keep up the good grading of all your fine coins P S if you care to say what each coin cost to grade okay if you dont want to say the cost i understand not all just to get the idea of price thank you PEACE!!

Fees are costly.....that is for sure. But you can make it work for you if you buy the right coins for the right price.

http://www.pcgs.com/grading_list.chtml