News of the (recycling) weird

Discussions about scrap yards, scrap yard prices, melting, refining, and obtaining metals from scrap or unconventional sources.

News of the (recycling) weird

Postby JerrySpringer » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:51 pm

I have a recyclables bin at work. I know I'd be in some hot water, or at least have the embarrassment factor, if I did this there:

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/ ... t_440.html


I don't think what the mayor did was bad. To me, the streets and its trash bins are sort of public domain. Of course, the law says different.
JerrySpringer
Penny Hoarding Member
 
Posts: 811
Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:07 pm

Re: News of the (recycling) weird

Postby psi » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:05 pm

I think the rationale for rules like this is often that the profitable recycling activities offset the costs of waste disposal and other types of recycling that may not be profitable. I would not load up on cans from recycling bins to scrap but I have been known to take coffee cans the odd time to store coins etc. Anything not in a recycling bin is fair game here though as far as I know. There is one guy around here who goes through recycling bins but I think he is regarded as sort of a harmless kook so nobody really cares.
User avatar
psi
Penny Hoarding Member
 
Posts: 648
Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:00 am
Location: Toronto area

Re: News of the (recycling) weird

Postby Mossy » Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:30 pm

No, there's some laws about garbage bins, resulting from people retrieving mail, trade secrets, etc from business trash bins. ID theft, intercompany spying, etc. I think the laws are impractical, especially considering how cheap shredders are, but they are around.

"Recycle bins", I'm not surprised they are considered special this way. Stuff loose on the curb on large item pickup day? I cannot see special laws.
Mossy
1000+ Penny Miser Member
 
Posts: 1764
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:45 pm

Re: News of the (recycling) weird

Postby NHsorter » Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:00 pm

I just read it really quickly, but I think it said that it was his 2nd offense? What an idiot. He is the Mayor of the town and he gets caught taking bottles. After the first time, he no longer has the ignorance excuse (which is a weak excuse anyway) And then he is dumb enough to get caught a second time.
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety” Benjamin Franklin
User avatar
NHsorter
Super Post Hoarder
 
Posts: 3301
Joined: Mon May 09, 2011 10:39 am
Location: Live Free or Die

Re: News of the (recycling) weird

Postby psi » Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:29 pm

Turns out my municipality actually does ban people from taking anything put out for garbage collection. I guess the safest bet is to knock on the door and ask if you can take the item. I'm not sure if this is ever enforced but I'm certain it's broken very frequently by a lot of people. Any expectation of privacy with your garbage is an illusion anyway, at my house anything with personal information goes into the fireplace.
User avatar
psi
Penny Hoarding Member
 
Posts: 648
Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:00 am
Location: Toronto area

Re: News of the (recycling) weird

Postby cesariojpn » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:45 pm

Wait, doesn't a federal court ruling automatically trumps the village rule? Something like "if it's on the curb, it's public property considering the items have been "abandoned."
User avatar
cesariojpn
Penny Hoarding Member
 
Posts: 954
Joined: Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:00 pm

Re: News of the (recycling) weird

Postby theirrationalist » Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:07 pm

cesariojpn wrote:Wait, doesn't a federal court ruling automatically trumps the village rule? Something like "if it's on the curb, it's public property considering the items have been "abandoned."



State and local governments can pass legeislation that become "added on" to federal laws. Because there is no explicit federal law that governs the collection of curbside garbage, state and local governments can pass any law regarding it, so long as it doesn't interfere with any other federal laws.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supremacy_Clause
theirrationalist
Penny Sorter Member
 
Posts: 87
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:05 pm

Re: News of the (recycling) weird

Postby wpd7 » Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:39 pm

Check your local laws, but in general, if it's not secured and not on private property, it's fair game.

A bit embarrassing though to be caught for "stealing."
wpd7
Penny Pincher Member
 
Posts: 135
Joined: Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:05 pm


Return to Scrap Metal Salvage

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 3 guests