The End of a Fun Hobby

[NotABigDeal]

Sort or don't sort, your choice. But you CANNOT leave this site, and you MUST continue to post. I have decided....

Deal

[cesariojpn]

Methinks the fellow has never been in the retail business.

I think it should be a law that every single American needs to spend at least 6 months in Retail. Bad enough I have to be behind numerous bad customers on a daily basis.

[slickeast]

Don't give up because your routine got interrupted. I just found that a bank switched over to TD Bank and 2 of them have a penny arcade. You can guess where i will be monday. After the CU cut everyone to $300/day limit per branch I had to scramble and figure out a new plan.

Yes it sucks when the gravy train is snatched out from under your feet, but you gotta just look for a new one to jump on.

[Tourney64]

Beauanderos,
$10,000/week is not a hobby, it's a job and obsession.

[barrytrot]

Are you conjecturing or do you know this to be a fact? I.e. business actually are left in need of more coins on a holiday weekend?

My guess is that you are conjecturing and that you are incorrect. If someone runs out of coins, they don't care any more due to the minute number of transactions requiring coins.

Methinks the fellow has never been in the retail business.

I used to be general mgr. of a small chain of theatres. Cant tell you the times on a holiday weekend we ran short of coinage on a monday holiday. Especially when mondays were 99cent nights.

Ok, I will concede there is a "market", albiet, I bet tiny tiny tiny. We are talking $1 in cents, not $25 as Beunaderos would require to even bother with it for 1 minute.


Some questions to the former GM:

How many years ago? For each year, I would think you would have to reduce cash payments by some percentage.

And what did you do? My guess is nothing

If Beunaderos (sp?) was selling cents would you have bought enough for him to bother to come over? Probably not.


Remember, the OP needs to be able to unload at least $25 worth of cents to even "notice". No business is going to say, "oh no I'm out of cents by $25 worth. I need a complete box to tide me over." That's not going to happen.

[appjoe]

Why don't you switch to dimes? If you can get them clear wrapped, you don't have to re-wrap or bag them; you can just turn them back in the way they are.

Dang Ray, thats no good to hear. I do like pennysaved's idea. Nothing wrong with sorting less too. Don't be affraid to to the "road trip sort". Lots of silver to be had that way. Dude its just slowed, not broken. Peter makes another good point......Find another Dump. Lick your wounds over the weekend then get your lazy butt back up and solve some problems.

Yes Ray take the Doc's advice those good ole boys from West Virginia are good at solving problems. Here is a example.

West Virginia boy


A good ole West Virginia boy won a bass boat in a raffle drawing. He
brought it home and his wife looks at him and says, "What the hell you
gonna do with that. There ain't no water deep enough to float a boat
within 200 miles of here." He says, "I won it and I'm a gonna keep
it."

His brother came over to visit several days later. He sees the wife
and asks where his brother is. She says, "He's out there in his bass
boat", pointing to the field behind the house.

The brother heads out behind the house and sees his brother sitting in
a bass boat with a fishing rod in his hand down in the middle of a big
field. He yells out to him, "What the hell are you doing?"

His brother replies, "I'm fishin. What the hell does it look like I'm a
doin."

His brother yells, "It's people like you that give people from West
Virginia a bad name, makin everybody think we is stupid. If I could
swim, I'd come out there and kick your ass

[Rodebaugh]

Now that was a good one Joe

[Thogey]

Read and heed, you old bastard!

Don't even think about leaving this forum! I will follow you to the end of cyberspace to harass you wherever you go.

I know where you live, if that doesn't work. I'll do the flaming bag of dog crap on your front porch. I will order pizzas COD to your room.

As much as I hate to admit it: You are a smart scrappy guy and will figure it out.

10,000 a week? Would it kill you to tone it down a bit?

Love,

Thogey

[hobo finds]

You could just post more 4000 and counting! I don't think you could just leave us...

[aloneibreak]

i for one would be glad to see your writings on your blogsite again ray

always fun to read

[kidman232]

have you taken noticed to what bank rolls sell for on ebay often, $13-14+ shipping. even after fees it might be more profitable to sell the rolls on ebay than what searching might yield.

[Treetop]

10k in coins a week?

Ive always wondered this.... you cant REALLY swim through piles of coins like scrooge mc duck did can you? I know you or someone else here must of tried....

[appjoe]

Well... it had to happen sooner or later. Wish it had been later. Just got my source bank to okay ordering 19 boxes of halves and 20 of cents for me per week. Just set up my 4th Ryedale in the chain and have production running smoothly. Now what happens? Dump Disaster! Doing a dump loop, Bank of America teller confides to me that the contract with Loomis is expiring in a couple of weeks and that the new carrier will be imposing fees, either $6 or $8 a bag, on returns... which the bank intends to pass along to the merchants "after all, they have to earn money." Thanks a lot, Frank-Dodd. This means... since I'm lucky to find one half in every other box, that even if it was only $6 a bag for returns, then halves hunting has now become a losing proposition for me. This means... since I'm limited to $50 of cents (weight limit) in penny bag returns... that they will be charging more than Coinstar (12- 16%). Hell! Crap! s--t! Phooey! Rats! Well, guess I'll just have to take up a new hobby, maybe start going to the gym. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeMrttj8Ucg

Ray, Why don't you try getting a cent bag off of them and if it has a good percent of copper maybe you could work a deal out to take some cent bags off them in exchange for half bags at no fee. Each half bag holds 2 half boxes $1000. and the cent bags 2 boxes. Just my 2 cents.

[Coppercrazy]

dont give up,just scale down.

[ember]

Find a casino to dump at.

[beauanderos]

It's the halves (and they were more fun) that would kill me. I was doing 19 boxes a week... and finding maybe $80 to $200 each time in silver... but there's no guarantee. This last group only yielded $40. What IS guaranteed is the bank charges of either $114 a week on the low end clear up to $152 on the upper end of their charges. Not worth risking it. Takes ten hours to unwrap those puppies, and then another two to bag em and spread the dumps out to four other Bank of America branches. I do have a second bank (Union Bank) that have coin counters in the lobby... but I couldn't risk dumping that kind of volume there. So, (temper tantrum) I guess this means cutting back to one box a week of halves, and maybe $200 a week in cents. btw.. I never intimated I was leaving the site... just cutting back on searching/sorting. I think I'll turn my attention to prepping, but some guns, etc, hit the gym. Been putting alot of stuff off because of (as Tourney64 aptly describes it) my obsession.

And another thing. This thread is what I have personally encountered. But only one of you (NDFarmer) picked up on the implications. Our hobby is threatened by fees. If one bank starts doing this, others will copy it. They want to generate fees however they can. If these fees go widespread... only the sorters who live in high percentage copper regions could afford to continue a business like effort. Or else everyone revert to hand sorting one box a week... and that would put a big crimp on Andy and his Ryedale sales.