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Two Pesetas--no date and no clue!

Postby Oakair » Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:55 pm

Can anyone help me ID this guy...It rings silver, im just curious as to what it actually is...

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Re: Two Pesetas--no date and no clue!

Postby Thogey » Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:58 pm

Your pics don't work.

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Re: Two Pesetas--no date and no clue!

Postby Oakair » Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:03 pm

Thogey wrote:Your pics don't work.

I'm standing ready with a krause book.


Should be fixed, did the whole image hosting site instead of trying to be lazy haha
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Re: Two Pesetas--no date and no clue!

Postby Thogey » Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:42 pm

I thought it was spanish, the sheild looks spanish. I don't recognize the monarch. Isabel was much fatter and rounder of the face.

Dude I'M STUCK.

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Re: Two Pesetas--no date and no clue!

Postby Oakair » Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:49 pm

Thogey wrote:I thought it was spanish, the sheild looks spanish. I don't recognize the monarch. Isabel was much fatter and rounder of the face.

Dude I'M STUCK.

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Ya, I had thought it was spanish too, but looking up old versions of 'dos pesetas' led to more confusion...

It appears to be the spanish shield, but all other versions of this coin have a pillar/column on either side,

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while this one has pulled back curtains and branches of some sort...Im getting nowhere haha

It was given to me by a relative over in Argentina, but Im relatively certain it isn't Argentinian...Its been bugging me for a few days now haha
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Re: Two Pesetas--no date and no clue!

Postby reddirtcoins » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:39 pm

If it is spanish you need to look in a Star... It might be there...
You did find a hard one...
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Re: Two Pesetas--no date and no clue!

Postby Oakair » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:06 pm

aev wrote:If it is spanish you need to look in a Star... It might be there...
You did find a hard one...


Broke out the cartographers magnifier...and found nothing in the stars...

I did however find what looks to be 3 fleur-de-lis in the center of the shield...this thing is starting to annoy me, damn great aunt should have told me what it was when she gave it to me :( lol
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Re: Two Pesetas--no date and no clue!

Postby Thogey » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:10 pm

This is going to be a good thread.

Uthminsta likes this stuff too.

Maybe it's some kind of medal or token? No date? It's looks like a liberty head.

Maybe you have a treasure.
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Re: Two Pesetas--no date and no clue!

Postby hobo finds » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:12 pm

did you check it with a magnet?
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Re: Two Pesetas--no date and no clue!

Postby Oakair » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:18 pm

hobo finds wrote:did you check it with a magnet?


Just checked...didn't stick (phew lol)
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Re: Two Pesetas--no date and no clue!

Postby aloneibreak » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:20 pm

im stumped as well

gotta be a local issue from the spanish civil war period
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Re: Two Pesetas--no date and no clue!

Postby Oakair » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:22 pm

aloneibreak wrote:im stumped as well

gotta be a local issue from the spanish civil war period


A quick google search yields: (ill be adding more as I search em)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Spain-Spanish-Civil ... _500wt_971

Huh...

I found this gold coin with the curtain behind the shield (on the right of the page), like is on mine, but the obv. is different, and its gold...

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Re: Two Pesetas--no date and no clue!

Postby aloneibreak » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:24 pm

the pulled back curtains with the crown on top was popular with a lot of german states issues in the late 19th century

doesnt help much here !
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Re: Two Pesetas--no date and no clue!

Postby Thogey » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:30 pm

The bottom right part of the sheild of Oakair's is different.

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Re: Two Pesetas--no date and no clue!

Postby Oakair » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:47 pm

Cant see it being a colony either, as it would state that somewhere on it, I would imagine

Heres one from puerto rico...

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Re: Two Pesetas--no date and no clue!

Postby Thogey » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:56 pm

I wish we you go back and put 'LADY LIBERTY' on our coins or an animal or something else.

We are just like everyone else, worshiping our monarchs.

What would George Washington think about his face on a coin? He knew he was not Caesar.

Maybe this is a symptom of our problem.

OK off topic. I'm sorry
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Re: Two Pesetas--no date and no clue!

Postby Oakair » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:59 pm

Thogey wrote:I wish we you go back and put 'LADY LIBERTY' on our coins or an animal or somthing else.

We are just like everyone else, worshiping our monarchs.

What would George Washington think about his face on a coin? He knew he was not Caesar.

Maybe this is a symptom of our problem.

OK off topic. I'm sorry


The Standing Liberty Quarter is my absolute favorite coin! The reverse especially...The obverse of the walking liberty half also stands out (probably because its on the ASE also lol)
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Re: Two Pesetas--no date and no clue!

Postby Cerulean » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:59 am

Gee whiz, I'm stumped too!
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Re: Two Pesetas--no date and no clue!

Postby Country » Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:01 am

Definitely Spanish with the coat of arms, but it is not a coin of the realm which would have ESPANIA on the legend. My guess is that it is an old trade token circa 1880 or so.
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Re: Two Pesetas--no date and no clue!

Postby Oakair » Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:11 am

Country wrote:Definitely Spanish with the coat of arms, but it is not a coin of the realm which would have ESPANIA on the legend. My guess is that it is an old trade token circa 1880 or so.


You figure its worth anything more than melt?
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Re: Two Pesetas--no date and no clue!

Postby Country » Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:02 pm

Oakair wrote:
Country wrote:Definitely Spanish with the coat of arms, but it is not a coin of the realm which would have ESPANIA on the legend. My guess is that it is an old trade token circa 1880 or so.


You figure its worth anything more than melt?


I do know that the Spanish peseta became a monetary unit in 1868. SILVER peseta coins were abandoned in 1933, just before the Spanish Civil War of the '30s. Since this coin is SILVER, and it looks quite old, I'd think it was minted in the 19th century. 19th century 5 peseta coins were SILVER dollar sized coins. Is this coin about the size of a half dollar, or smaller?

Where and what I don't know, but I'm still researching; perhaps I find something later.
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Re: Two Pesetas--no date and no clue!

Postby Oakair » Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:09 pm

Its about halfway between the size of a quarter and a half dollar...Thanks for searching :D
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Re: Two Pesetas--no date and no clue!

Postby AGgressive Metal » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:02 pm

It was made sometime between 1869 and 1910, I know that much. Silver pesetas were only made during that time.
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Re: Two Pesetas--no date and no clue!

Postby OneBiteAtATime » Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:25 pm

Been hunting this one for about 2 hours.

First Thought: I'm wondering if this was minted under the short-lived first First Spanish Republic (1873-1874).

Second Thought: In this coat of arms there is no Pomegranate - Coat of arms from the Kingdom of Granada. You see it at the bottom of the 4 quarters of most Spanish Coats. Something different here.

Country - Are you sure this isn't Hispania? Sure looks greek. But all this research is greek to me so I'm gonna give it up for the night.... hope someone figures this one out for sure.... my head hurts.
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Re: Two Pesetas--no date and no clue!

Postby Oakair » Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:49 pm

OneBiteAtATime wrote:Been hunting this one for about 2 hours.

First Thought: I'm wondering if this was minted under the short-lived first First Spanish Republic (1873-1874).

Second Thought: In this coat of arms there is no Pomegranate - Coat of arms from the Kingdom of Granada. You see it at the bottom of the 4 quarters of most Spanish Coats. Something different here.

Country - Are you sure this isn't Hispania? Sure looks greek. But all this research is greek to me so I'm gonna give it up for the night.... hope someone figures this one out for sure.... my head hurts.


Thanks for searching!

I feel you on the headache haha...Ill try searching some more off some of your findings

You might have something on that missing flower...didn't notice that till you posted!
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