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by Z00 » Sat May 05, 2012 6:26 am
“Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason.” ― Mark Twain
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- opening lines of 101 Things To Do 'Til The Revolution by Claire Wolfe
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by sparechange » Sat May 05, 2012 7:31 am
There is so much money and power involved that it seems unlikely that this wouldn't get much traction in the courts.
Always drink upstream from politicians, they tend to foul things up.
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by barrytrot » Sat May 05, 2012 9:57 am
This is not a landmark lawsuit.
Every day someone creates a nonsense lawsuit and claims they are "taking on the banks" or "taking on the President" or "taking on other big scary entity".
All come to naught other than some publicity for the party starting it and, of course, the tax payers pay even more money to fight this.
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by theo » Sat May 05, 2012 12:52 pm
barrytrot wrote:This is not a landmark lawsuit.
Every day someone creates a nonsense lawsuit and claims they are "taking on the banks" or "taking on the President" or "taking on other big scary entity".
All come to naught other than some publicity for the party starting it and, of course, the tax payers pay even more money to fight this.
I agree. Other than banks not properly crediting customer accounts the the lawsuit is pretty vague. Also I don't believe private individuals have the standing to sue the government or any government official in most cases.
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by barrytrot » Sat May 05, 2012 12:55 pm
theo wrote:barrytrot wrote:This is not a landmark lawsuit.
Every day someone creates a nonsense lawsuit and claims they are "taking on the banks" or "taking on the President" or "taking on other big scary entity".
All come to naught other than some publicity for the party starting it and, of course, the tax payers pay even more money to fight this.
I agree. Other than banks not properly crediting customer accounts the the lawsuit is pretty vague. Also I don't believe private individuals have the standing to sue the government or any government official in most cases.
Private citizens or even citizens of another country can and OFTEN DO sue the government. Successfully in many cases.
But THIS SUIT is nothing more than a smoke screen for publicity and CAUSES HARM to all of us.
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by theo » Sun May 06, 2012 12:26 am
Just to clarify, the government can claim sovreign Immunity to avoid a lawsuit, however the Federal Tort Claims Act allows for limited power to bring a tort action. Basically before you sue the government you have to argue that you have the right bring suit in the first place. Many suits get thrown out this stage. There was a recent case where the Supreme Court granted the right of a homeowner to bring action against the EPA.
The bottom line is that it far easier to successfully sue a private party than the Government. These plaintiffs would be well-advised to limit their action to the banks. Naming Obama makes it look like a political stunt.
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